How blatant does it have to be?

ok now that i got the post about piv out of the way, here is the promised post about what Elliot Rodger (who killed several people about 2 months ago in Isla Vista) has exposed about men. let’s start off with a quote from this deranged asshole’s manifesto, in case you haven’t read it (source):

“In fully realizing these truths about the world, I have created the ultimate and perfect ideology of how a fair and pure world would work. In an ideal world, sexuality would not exist. It must be outlawed. In a world without sex, humanity will be pure and civilized. Men will grow up healthily, without having to worry about such a barbaric act. All men will grow up fair and equal, because no man will be able to experience the pleasures of sex while others are denied it. The human race will evolve to an entirely new level of civilization, completely deviod of all the impurity and degeneracy that exists today.
In order to completely abolish sex, women themselves would have to be abolished. All women must be quarantined like the plague they are, so that they can be used in a manner that actually benefits a civilized society. In order to carry this out, there must exist a new and powerful type of government, under the control of one divine ruler, such as myself. The ruler that establishes that new order would have would have complete control over every aspect of society, in order to direct it towards a good and pure place. At the disposal of this government, there needs to be a highly trained army of fanatically loyal troops, in order to enforce such revolutionary laws.

The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.

A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artifically inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.

Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining women’s existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing about the existence of women, there will be no desire for sex. Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts on the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.”

have you ever wondered how patriarchy works for men? it’s like this: inside class:men there is a very strict hierarchy. only the top men get what all men want: unlimited access to any and all resources they want, especially, but not limited to: women’s bodies to fuck and to breed with. men compete with one another for the higher ranks, or for any rank, really, that is not the bottom (remember: bottom = woman). this is how patriarchy works for men. men oppress other men economically, racially, but it only works because the more powerful men promise the less powerful men access to one thing: access to at least one woman, or, in the west, access to many women to fuck (watch this video and see how men promise other men unlimited fuckholes if they obey the rules of islam).

when this system doesn’t work so well anymore, because women have gained more rights and freedom, men get pissed. what about their promised prize? their personal fuckhole and breeder girlfriend and wife?!

of course, men don’t blame other men for setting up this disgusting and inhumane system, noooo. it’s women’s fault. women and their rights, aka feminism. men like asshole Rodger are pissed because patriarchy promises each of them access to women’s bodies to use  as they please, but then somehow fails to deliver. in a perverted way men like ER are actually right, feminism is “to blame” for patriarchy’s failure to deliver, because women in the west have more rights now that we used to have for the longest time in patriarchy, which is of course an achievement of the women’s movement. obviously, his whole logic only makes sense if you don’t see women as human beings with a right to autonomy, but then men like him don’t. everything men do, expecially everything they do collectively, is geared towards ensuring access of class:men to women’s bodies. in the west they started the so-called “sexual revolution” in order to convince women to let them fuck us, because with women’s growing economic independence since the 197os, women didn’t have to marry anymore in order to survive, marriage having been the institution that enabled men to keep their own personal battery/fuckhole/breeder/nurse since the dawn of HIStory. so they had to convince/pressure/shame women into letting them fuck us without getting married first.

fast forward 40 years. women today are systematically groomed for fuckability and then become “promiscuous” which has another benefit for men: not only can they easily fuck us, but if we dare notice that we have been raped they can blame us for it, because promiscuous women, aka whores rank lowest among all women and are therefore perfect scapegoats. however, inexplicably, sometimes this almost foolproof system doesn’t work, and some men cannot get access to women. as happened in the case of Elliot whineyass Rodger. however, extreme narcissist that he was, he didn’t just want to fuck women. he could have done that, since he was quite wealthy. he could have paid a prostituted woman to rape her. but noooo, he wanted to be god, with hundreds of (blond, not blackeyed) virgins begging him to fuck them. he wanted “consensual” rape from women, because having to overtly coerce a woman would have humiliated him, since he saw himself as a god. gods don’t have to coerce women in order to rape them, women fall over their heels for the godly phallus. he wanted the perfect fuck slave who would beg him to fuck her. He wanted to be god, just as the muslim man in the video above promises men that they will become gods who black-eyed virgins will beg to be fucked by (yes, their idea of divinity is pretty fucked up. but I digress).

the point is that when men get angry at patriarchy, women lose. let’s look at the last paragraph of the above quote again, shall we?

“Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining women’s existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing about the existence of women, there will be no desire for sex. Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts on the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.”

note how in his perfect world there would be no more “sex,” i.e. fucking and that in his mind that would lead to a perfectly fair world (for men, since women are not human anyway). what does he mean by that?

men know, most of them only subliminally, that they need to fuck us in order to recharge their batteries. just look at their idea of paradise (if you haven’t watched the video linked above, you should really do it now; it’s very educational). men are dependent on gaining access to our bodies in order to stock up on life force. when they can’t do that regularly, because they don’t have a wife/girlfriend fuckhole/breeder they personally own, and/or cannot afford to pay a prostituted woman to rape her or date rape a woman etc., they feel the humiliation of their own degeneracy. they can usually keep that realization at bay by fucking us, but when they can’t, they become acutely aware of their need. this shakes them up profusely, because it contradicts their artificially constructed identity that they are gods. gods shouldn’t need to stick their dicks into other beings in order to energize, and all. this unleashes in them a narcissistic rage. they were promised they were gods/princes, and now they are feeling their degeneracy, so not fair. anyway, obviously, women are to blame for that, because next to women (the true goddesses) men who can’t grim-level enough women by (preferably) fucking them are forced to feel their own being, and it’s not a good feeling. ergo, it must be women’s fault (this is called projection and is a time-honoured move by men). so, naturally, if there were no more women, men wouldn’t have to feel their degeneracy (he is wrong, but thats hiss reasoning). men would even forget that they crave fucking women, or so he thinks (they would not).

particularly chilling in this context are the last three sentences of that quote:

“Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts on the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.”

this is the epitome of nihilism, because what he is essentially hoping for is for men to stop having to feel their Selves, their demonic essence. they’d have to kill themselves to achieve that but men being men, they won’t kill themselves (which would be doing the planet a favour), no, consistent with their narcissism they want all that is life-giving (love=life force) to disappear from view, so that nothing can remind them of what they really are: the antithesis of love/life: degenerated mutants.this is the scope of their necrophilia. they feel so humiliated by their own essence in contrast to what they are not and can never be (female), that they would rather destroy everything that has genuine life-force in it (unlike them) than face their own Selves.

this is more than aggrieved entitlement, this is evil. it’s the antithesis of life, and it’s not death, because death is actually part of life. it’s something far more sinister: it’s nothingness. murderous nihilism. a craving for complete and irreversible disintegration.

and don’t kid yourselves. all men are like that to some degree. even the nice ones. even the enlightened ones. give them enough time and opportunity (for example, refuse them) and they will show their true natures. because that drive to disintegration is inscribed in their genes. they are a mutation, like cancer, and mutations like that are not sustainable. they will usurp and exploit as many resources of any kind as they can. and then they will explode, trying to destroy as much as they can when they go.

how blatant does it have to get for women to uncover our anger? for women to fight back?

how obvious do men have to make their entitlement to women as objects, as prizes before we realize that men do not see women as human?

class: men see women as resource, and have class:women more than half convinced its true. while in fact this is the father of all reversals: they aren’t human, not us. we are the goddesses, not them. we are sources of life force, they are black holes.

open your eyes, sisters, and really, really look at men. can you see the demons yet?

steve21/hdc/people/69/0192 assad is evil benjamin_netanjahu is evil brabeck is evil elliot rodger is evil koch-brothers are evil Vladimir Putin the pope is evil

abubakar is evil


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12 Responses to How blatant does it have to be?

  1. witchwind says:

    Hi I think that something noteworthy in Roger’s case is that he IS part of the elite, contrary to other MRAs. He had the money and power to rape as many women as he wanted. But that’s not what he wanted.

    This is something a friend pointed out to me other day, the reason why he never got to rape any woman is because he didn’t want to suffer the ‘humiliation’ of having to force a woman into ‘sex’ (submission), because it would have stained his image of himself as a god. Resorting to force or manipulation or any kind of coercion would have been for him evidence of his failure of being all-powerful. He wanted to be so powerful that he wouldn’t even need to use force to subject a woman to intercourse, he wanted women to flock to him and beg him to penetrate them. He wanted women to be at his feet, and not just any women, the “prettiest” ones. He’s angry because he isn’t the god he was promised to be as a white man part of the celebrity elite.

  2. witchwind says:

    OMG I re-read your post more thoroughly and just realised you DID make that point. Argh I sound like a complete idiot I’m so sorry.
    Funny that this friend said the exact same thing as you did without reading your article, and just after I’d read your blog post, and I remember wanting to comment about it here, forgetting that you’d said it in the same way (memory from screen reading doesn’t last as long I’ve noticed). Ugh sorry again

  3. witchwind says:

    it really sounds silly. And WEIRD. you can delete all these comments if you like. I’d prefer if you did actually.

  4. witchwind says:

    or just leave it at that, never mind, even though it’s embarrassing. Whatever you prefer.

    Anyway you did a great job of analysing his manifesto, and it really deserved good radical feminist analysis. It’s pure, condensed patriarchal ideology in ways we rarely see, especially not articulated to this extent: a modern day mein kampf or malleus maleficraum. I’m glad you reverted the reversals and projections and put facts straight again, so it’s less of a mindfuck than reading it on its own. I remember when I saw it in the news I could only bear to skim through.

    This quote here
    “Men will grow up healthily, without having to worry about such a barbaric act. All men will grow up fair and equal, because no man will be able to experience the pleasures of sex while others are denied it. The human race will evolve to an entirely new level of civilization, completely deviod of all the impurity and degeneracy that exists today.”

    It’s really interesting here because it’s unusual to see degeneracy, impurity and barbarity attributed to men and especially men’s sexuality, instead of women. Very few men are honest about this, as we mostly only see these terms projected onto women as insults (especially the term impurity which is a variant from the slur “whore” – but the real whores are men, not women). It reminds me a lot of what Mary Daly wrote about lechery in pure lust. Men know they’re obsessed by “sexuality” and they feel their lives are depraved by this obsession, which is why they’re obsessed with notions of purity/impurity because they’re desperate to purify themselves from lechery. Putting the blame on women for this obsession, as you say, is way not to hate and kill themselves.

    Earlier christian-dominated western patriarchy is all about mastering and containing these obsessions (lechery) and seeing sexuality as inherently shameful. even though it served primarily to shame women, not men, i do think that in there, there must be some kind of influence of a female counter-culture where they attempted to limit men’s desire for rape. I think it contrasts with modern “liberal” patriarchy where men want all barriers to rape, prostitution and pedocriminality taken down.

    I’m not sure why ER calls intercourse a barbaric act however, even though obviously it’s an apt term to describe it. Does he think it’s inherently violent? Or is it barbaric only because of its perceived unfairness to men and as a cause for worry?

  5. Hey witchwind, i posted all of your comments because i approved them one after the other..anyway i hope this is ok. doesn’t matter if you reiterated my point, i do think its intresting that you wrote it without remembering i had written it and your friend also made that point. points to the validity of the analysis, IMO. (and you put it very well!)
    I think ER and many men know that intercourse IS barbaric and degrading for the woman. they laugh at women (empowerfullized fun-fem women) for thinking they can engage in “sex” like men do and not be degraded by it. i should know, i used to be one of those women. men know. many, anyway. and they know they have to do it in order to feed off our life-force and they are ashamed by their own dependancy. but they can’t acknolwdge that because they are fucking cowards and narcissist and so they project it onto us. ER was scared of errections and wanted them to stop, for everybody, so he wouldn’t have to feel so needy. like all men are, needy and dependant on us.

  6. witchwind says:

    hey that’s fine!

    yeah you’re right it’s obvious men know it’s a barbaric act, because as you say they despise women for “accepting” it (ie simply for reacting in natural ways to extreme levels of violence and captivity) and also it’s the worst insult a man can ever throw at another man: of being fucked. All insults in all languages boil down to this. Yes men do know it’s the worst thing you can inflict on a human being. Men equate it to death and killing, and everywhere in society “fucking” is equated to death or extreme violence (only to women is it presented as love and romance – which is why the level of mindfuck is so extreme, because something can’t be both love and death). Anyway death is what it is. Men know it.

    “ER was scared of errections and wanted them to stop, for everybody, so he wouldn’t have to feel so needy. like all men are, needy and dependant on us.”

    Yeh. It’s interesting to see them as needy and dependent on women in this sense, i’ve never seen it this exact way before. I think this neediness and the way it expresses through constant erections is very much exacerbated through men’s patriarchal social organisation though: where every woman’s whole being is reduced to catering to men’s erections, and every instance is an opportunity for men to sexually objectify us.

  7. witchwind says:

    men know how to channel their biology to turn it against women. This neediness and dependency is a weapon that can be turned against women if men are taught how to rape from day one, and so instead of needing women in a life-sustaining sense (supposing if that were ever possible), they need women to destroy and rape them.

    It seems to me that men, once trained to experience life through erections caused by the objectification of women and life, can’t go out of this mode. I’m pretty much convinced that there’s something much less resilient in men to any kind of brain damage or incurred at early age, ie installing of the mono-feeling-channel between the dick and brain.

  8. witchwind says:

    i don’t know if this makes any sense, but basically i’m trying to figure out what we mean by neediness and how men use their biology to turn it against women. It does imply that a) there’s some biological aspect that can be malleable to some extent but specific to males and b) that men’s willingness to go against women precedes this biology – that is, men’s consciousness of their condition as males and their situation in relation to women is what causes their primeval patriarchal anger against women, and then spurs them to turn themselves into weapons against women and life.

  9. yes, i see your point and i don’t know any answer to that either. i think there is something about men, a certain form of narcissism which cannot bear to nOT be the center of the universe. they are supposed to assist us while we create life, and they are mortally offended by that. at the same time, they can only feel connectionn to Source by sticking their dicks into us (connecting via our root chakra) and they are ALSO mortally offended by that. but why they are that way ( i mean obviously patriarchal conditioning will exacerbate the problem, but it must have preceded patriarchy because this is IMO the reason they initially started enslaving women and establishing patriarchy). what is it about them that makes them absolutely incapable of just being part of some greater whole, without always trying to dominate? they really are like cancer cells in that regard, they do not care about the whole but only about their own short term growth even though eventually it’ll kill them. there is something very very wrong with them. i wish i knew what it was.

  10. it’s really like they feel cheated and are making women pay for it. they are really angry at the goddess, i guess. for not making them central. so they’re killing her. but why does it make them angry, why do they need to feel central? why do they have such fragile egos? i don’t know. maybe there is something alien about them, as we discussed on wise woman’s blog. and they answer is really a snythesis of what we can observe about their behaviour here on earth and metaphysical stuff that is going on on other dimensions.

  11. witchwind says:

    I’d like to develop more on what you said, but one quick answer: it’s interesting to see lefty men’s promotion of rape as sexual liberation and “fun” for women in the light of what you said: if men do feel “humiliated” for getting their life force from such a barbaric act, well it makes sense that they’d do all their possible to force women to appear enthusiastic about intercourse/rape, to make them feel less depraved about wanting such an awful thing. It’s not enough for women just to endure it, they can’t stand it when women show they don’t like it. Sheila Jeffreys wrote about that in “the spinster and her enemies”, how the sexologists were very explicit about what liberation was for, to subordinate women completely. This aspect adds a new light to it.

  12. I must say, I really love this blog and I am glad I found it and this blog post is just superb, as it points out the mind of the rapist men very well.
    The fact that Rodger talked about love ceasing to exist was the part that gave me the most chills, because without love, what can there be? Love is an expression of Divine Knowledge, knowing the purpose of everything without having any subjective illusion to it.
    I do believe that there is something alien to men. I have studied alien beings for most of my life (and even seen some myself), and it is striking to me how similar their predatory behavior is. I know this might sound way out there, but I see parallels here: Aliens, as abductees say, have to feed on humans to fill their empty batteries, much like men need to re-energize by PIVing women. Reptilian aliens are reported to show domination by raping those they consider beneath them. Men do the same thing to women.
    I think there may be a connection between men and aliens indeed. The dread I have always felt about the topic of aliens is very similar to the dread I feel when being confronted with men. In fact, I came in contact with radical feminism for the first time when Dworkin’s work was mentioned on an alien forum I was on, and that post mentioned “societal stockholm syndrome” and how women as a whole suffer from exactly that.
    Not to mention, Aliens actually do the same as men do – impregnating female abductees against their own will and then stealing the child.

    .. also, I am sorry if I am not making enough sense. It is up to you to decide if this comment gets published or not. Alien beings may sound like they are far too far out there to be considered, and it’s true that we have much more urgent things to sort out in the fight for the liberation of us and our sisters. It is just the common things I notice about men and aliens that is very interesting to me in this case, especially considering how I came to radical feminism for the first time. It may very well be that there is a metaphysical connection there between the two.

    Anyhow, I am looking forward to future blog posts from you.

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